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I guess I might not be republican?
July 18th, 2010 | 
Author: I grew up in a conservative family, I’m still very socially conservative since I am Christian. I generally vote for republican candidates (those that don’t support abortion) but fiscally/economically I’m confused ever since the economy tanked.
Basically I’m anti big spending/ racking up debt, I’m for capitalism and free market because of the fact it creates competition and innovation and fast progress in technology which is always needed.
However after following the news of various sources (even fox news) it’s clear that greed and corruption in wall st. was a huge part of this mess. I am very anti-greed and corruption and hate it when I see it in businesses and services I use everyday. I hate being nickled and dimed especially as a college student on a less than $1000 budget despite working and selling what I can for income.
Basically I just recently read about the recent Financial Reform that was passed and I am clearly for it. I support free market and capitalism but believe that for it to be most effective there needs to be some kind of oversight and transparency to prevent greed and corruption from Big Business that got us into this mess.
I am for Businesses that are ethical if that makes sense. I hope to start a Business someday time permitting. But I am not for Big Business controlling everything.
I don’t think money is the root of all evil but I don’t love money either, I believe it’s a necessary evil.
Basically I’m anti Big Government and Big Business since both are subject to corruption.
I think the best way is a mixture of both, meaning capitalism and free market free to do its thing with sufficient oversight and laws to follow to prevent what happened.
With this views, should I just consider myself a moderate or independent and stay away from politics or am I still a Republican?
@emp: exactly which is why except for this financial reform package I don’t support this current administration and obama. I didn’t vote for obama.
With the health care I am undecided since I don’t know enough about it. I do know I’m glad I can be on my parents plan until 26 since I’m 22 now and can’t afford my own health care until I graduate later next year.
@ruth, that is why I am confused, I want there to be job creation but without some kind of new laws to prevent corruption this economic disaster could happen again someday.
Look, only an idiot decides they’re republican or democrat instead of picking pieces of each platform that they like. The point is to be informed in the issues and rounded as a person, you don’t need to say you support either party if you can honestly say you don’t practice ignorance.
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You are still Conservative.
No matter who caused this crisis, government failed to stop it, The FED failed, the SEC, failed, FTC failed.
Everything obama is doing including financial reform is about growing government.
Republicans think, and Democrats feel.
Democrats feel the government is the answer,
Republicans think the government is the problem.
Democrats trust big government,
Republicans trust big business.
Democrats feel, it is ok to kill an innocent fetus, and let a convicted murderer live.
Republicans think it is ok to kill a convicted murderer, and let an innocent fetus live.
Democrats feel the answer to any problem is to raise taxes.
Republicans think the answer to any problem is to cut taxes.
Democrats hate the rich,
Republicans want to be rich.
Democrats hate guns,
Republicans like guns.
Democrats feel global warming is more of a threat then terrorism.
Republicans think terrorism is more of a threat then global warming.
Democrats feel the USA is occupying Iraq,
Republicans think the USA is liberating Iraq.
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Goldman charge looks more like politics
http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/financials/story.html?id=2926436
AIG to Dems
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000123
Bailed Banks to Dems
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.php?cycle=2008&ind=F03
Dems fight regulating Fannie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4A0RuXhnQA
Dems are clueless on Fannie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMInSfanqg
2004 Dems Condone Freddie Fannie Illegal Bookkeeping
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BIWolWKsO0
Dems voted for Bush Bailout
http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/03/news/economy/house_friday_bailout/index.htm?postversion=2008100309
Congress has created no jobs
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0210/Bayh_Congress_has_created_no_jobs.html
Bill stimulus bill
http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/03/news/economy/house_friday_bailout/index.htm?postversion=2008100309
Obama’s Stimulus Plan: Failing
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1910208,00.html
Cloward-Piven Strategy
http://cloward-piven.com/
Democrats & Obama Destroyed the Economy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVc-Kh3Uh_o&annotation_id=annotation_770473&feature=iv
Well, given that it was a Democrat (Bill Clinton) who made this possible by deregulating banking in ’99 (by removing the Glass-Steagall Acts prohibition against banks trading in securitized debt), it is only fitting that the Democrats restore the laws that they removed in the first place.
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oversight and transparency? Tell me, when has the government (the regulators of financial reform) EVER been either of those two things?
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Nobody supports abortion. People support conservatives not telling us what we can or can’t do with out bodies. There’s an astronomical difference.
Money isn’t necessary, but our society and the unwillingness of everyone to cooperate with each other makes it necessary. It is possible to live in perfect harmony with each other where everybody contributes without having the greed of money. This will never happen though.
It’s good you understand the necessity of financial reform since money is a necessity in our society.
Being nickle and dimed sucks and is all part of the college experience. Hopefully it teaches you how to use your money wisely for the future when you’ll have a lot more of it.
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You’re the old classic conservative that has become an extinct species in this country.
Also read this definition of a Social Democracy:
Social democracy promotes the creation of economic democracy as a means to secure workers’ rights. Social democracy rejects the Marxian principle of dictatorship of the proletariat, claiming that gradualist democratic reforms will improve the rights of the working class. Social democracy deviates from traditional forms of socialism, which in the traditional sense aims to transcend the capitalist system in its entirety, and is unlike socialism in the Marxist sense, which is to supersede capitalism through a proletarian revolution . Instead the goal of social democracy is to reform capitalism through parliamentary and democratic processes in order to achieve a welfare state, government regulation of the market, and various state sponsored programs to ameliorate and remove the inequities and injustices inflicted by the capitalist market system. Social democrats do not aim to replace the fundamental aspects of capitalism; private-ownership of the means of production, the system of wage-labor and commodity production; instead social democrats advocate capitalist mixed economies, such as Third way positions and the social market economy. The term itself is also used to refer to the particular kind of society that social democrats advocate.
This is was the liberals are about NOT socialism which is a government that never existed or exists in this country! Obama is still to conservative for me but he is not a Socialist!
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Your issue is not Republican vs. Democrat, it’s Socialist vs. Capitalist. For politics, don’t be a one-issue party member. If you are anti big business, then you want there to be regulations on the market- so you are not an advocate of free market. Keep in mind that there is only a tiny faction of capitalists that want there to be absolutely no regulations. You’re quite normal.
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You are definitely neither my friend! I enjoy the fact that you aren’t tied down by one party or the other! No one says its wrong to vote with your mind! A party is only made up of a mixture of ideas, not everyone will agree that there all right! I think before i vote, because voting straight ticket for either party is being lazy! and naive!
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Here is how you tell.
Republicans will say you are a Republican (and of course Libertarians will say you are one of them), in response to this question. They want your vote.
But wait until you answer later questions, without the lengthy explanation, and you will be called a RINO or a liberal if you maintain the same attitude.
Republicans/conservatives have no use for moderates anymore.
Welcome to the democratic party. You are one of the first of millions to see the light.
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Do not buy into the lib myth that Republicans are big business. We are small business, entreprenurial, mom & pop and sole. All of these are in trouble as the big businesses are getting bailed out with our money. Don’t feel alone in being confused, but do pay attention to all the Republicans who did NOT vote for the bailouts.
When you say you are for the financial reform, do you realize that is most likely to hurt small businesses more and actually helps the big businesses that have the politicians in their pockets anyway?
Adding: We had laws in place and it happened anyway. The people responsible for the oversight of Freddie and Fannie lied and said it was fine. And they were Dems in Congress, btw. You say you’re a Christian, you have strong social conservative views, then surely you recognize you cannot vote with the Dems while they are allowing SP libs to run their party.
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You’re an economic centrist like myself. You believe in a predominantly market based system but agree that government intervention is often required. You and I would have agreed on just about everything with Eisenhower and Theodore Roosevelt era Republicans.
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I hope you come down as a conservative Republican.
Freedom always carries risk. Capitalism is economic freedom, which means people can either be generous or selfish. Such a system always allows people to "push the envelope", and so there must be regulations and criminal laws to prevent them from corrupting the system and abusing others.
The problem arises when anti-capitalist people on the left point to occasional abuses and claim the authority to to impose draconian regulations that ultimately cripple the free market. They say, "capitalism has failed"–when it hasn’t.
There will never be a perfect solution, but we must, as in all of society, maintain a balance between freedom and regulations that destroy freedom. I think we are at that point now. Capitalism, even with its abuses is better than socialism, which is an inherent abuse of liberty. Even when it is practiced according to theory, economic freedom is denied to individuals, and a person’s ability to achieve his full potential is stifled.
We are, as any economist will tell you, a "mixed economy", meaning part capitalist and part socialist. The issue is what proportion shall that mixture be? There should be robust capitalism with just enough government regulation to keep it fair.
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Look, only an idiot decides they’re republican or democrat instead of picking pieces of each platform that they like. The point is to be informed in the issues and rounded as a person, you don’t need to say you support either party if you can honestly say you don’t practice ignorance.
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